General Discussion

Something controversial I know but hopefully this will get the forum going

One of my "pet hates" is when an opponent chooses to play on in a clearly lost position. 

I'm not talking about being +1.45 up on a SF assessment. I'm talking about Initially being +15.00 which then turns into +153.00 with a mate in 14 announced with a queen up

This has happened to me two or three times this year and I find it annoying because, if this was OTB, most players would resign straight away - so why different in CC? 

This is the basis of my WCCF proposal to give every player one "adjudication challenge" in a game so that, if the result of the game is so obvious, it can be brought to a halt straight away

Chess ultimately is a game that should bring people together and not cause animosity

Interested in your thoughts? 

Hi Paul,

Personally, I am strongly against games being completed by adjudicators (under any circumstance).  We've actually almost eliminated adjudications now - they won't happen under the new withdrawal rules, and Triple Block allows us to set end dates of tournaments without ever needing adjudications.  Some organisers still like to combine the classical time control with an end date (which is now the only possible situation where games can go to adjudication), but less and less frequently now.

The players (and only the players) decide when to move, what to move, when to offer or accept draws, and when to resign; and, as long as they are operating within the rules, they are not obliged to explain the decisions they make... to me that's a fundamental part of not just chess, but any game between two players.

Sure, there are people who abuse this...

Cheers,

Austin

Hi,

I understand Paul’s point of view as I’m “suffering” this situation now … in a current game, totally lost for black pieces but …

Said that I agree with Austin as only the player has to decide when his game is over.

Maybe Paul is making reference to Dead Man Defence practices … when a player is deleting to the maximum the obvious result: 0-1 … even in such situations it has been a player decision but I understand that ICCF has to difficult the DMD mentioned practices: Triple Block System seems to be a possibility as double time after more than 20 days of reflection.

In my particular case, when I’m -5.00 (for instance) or more I decide to recognize it and I resing with a message to my rival.

Jordi

Agree with Paul, the winning player could be allowed to ask for an adjudication in situ. I had one extreme instance where the opponent waited not just until the last day of every time control, but sometimes til the last 10 minutes before continuing on in a hopeless position! When he eventually lost track many months later and overstepped and I claimed a win, he called me a very uncomplimentary name! I'd be inclined to move to a 1 move per 3-5 day basis with a small bank in reserve to cover holidays - keep ppl honest and active.